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The current history section in this page just talks about the origins of Tajiks. We should make a modern era section, that many other ethnic group pages already have. Tajiks have had plenty of history in the USSR, Soviet-Afghan War, Afghan civil war, and the current situation in Afghanistan right now.
Uzbekistans goverment did’t estimate that numbers as 2 to 11 million Tajiks in Uzbekistan. You should put that to the estimate of Richard Foltz. Richard Foltz linked as source to this page told us that he believes that there are between 6 to 11 million Tajiks in Uzbekistan. You changed the numbers please put it back to previous. If Uzbekistans government estimated that as 2 to 11 million please share us sources.
I'm adding the full list of origins and possible origins for the Tajiks from both Tajikistan and Afghanistan. I have added citations, and evidence. Tajiks are a mixed group, they are not actually Persians, but they are their own unique group with their own amazing history, at the same level as Persians. Again they are MIXED. They also have some Greek ancestry due to the Greek conquests of Central Asia. The Greeks and Macedonians lived in Bactria in Tajikistan and northern Afghanistan. Have a look at the people referred to as Dayuan in the citations and internal link I added. I believe in honesty. So make sure you understand what true history is, and not make up your own stories. Thanks. Leopardus62 (talk) 05:06, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have references that back up your claims? DNA test results on research papers etc? As far as I know, their closest group (pashtuns) don't have greek admixture beyond a few haplogroups according to latest research Nowtis (talk) 11:03, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
::replying to what Leopardus said, Tajiks even though they cant be considered "greek" they can be considered descendents of Greco-Bactrians considering that many of there tradition's, cultures and values came from the greeks but it was a mix of the region, the most important thing to Leopardus62 right now should be acknowledging that many histories of tajiks have been lost with the Mongolian genocide of our regions, tajiks could be descendants of a number of the lost eastern iranian tribes, but nonetheless i do think , us tajiks reserve the right to distinguish ourselves from Persians of iran who say we speak "dari"(an insult term to undermine the language we speak , but we understand) and "Pashtuns" who call themselves
Descendents of Israelites,
And are also closely tied to the region of the india, where ironically more pashtuns live in Pakistan outside of "Afghanistan" than the region they claim to.
Still the time i would assume has come for Tajiks, to either they integrate to Pashtun societies or iranian ones, or make one of there own, we cannot let our lives be dictated by corrupt warlords who only think about there own pockets or Pashtuns who wish to change us into there own culture or iranians who consider us alien to themselves and consider themselves "European"(lol)
I do believe tajiks are a unique people that are stuck in a war that they shouldn't be a part of (rule of the majority in afghanistan forces the tajiks to fight for pashtuns and there wars thus putting them in a really hard situation as they have nothing to gain and everything to lose) 2607:FEA8:FC60:7C5A:97EA:B715:7199:993F (talk) 19:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC) strike sock-- Ponyobons mots20:07, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't need to show you, of all people, DNA results proving Greek descent. Furthermore it is extremely difficult and largely impossible to pinpoint Greek descent with DNA haplogroups. It's mainly guess work. I have actually studied Genetics at university to know this. Also, no actual studies have conclusively proven that Pashtuns have Greek descent. A lot these studies that are used for Pashtuns are statistical and speculative. The only actual evidence comes from archeology.
So understand that archeology and historical evidence is also evidence used to justify descent and relations. The Macedonians and Greeks heavily colonized and ruled the area of Northern Afghanistan and Tajikistan, which was called Bactria. Tajiks are native to Northern Afghanistan and Tajikistan (i.e. Bactria). Southern Afghanistan was not Bactria. Also, Bactria was very Greek after that time. The Greco-Bactrian kingdom is an important part of the history of Tajiks. Go read about the Dayuan people, who were related to the Greco-Bactrians, mentioned by ancient historians.
Also, Pashtuns are not originally from northern Afghanistan or Bactria. Look up the article titled 'Pashtun colonization of northern Afghanistan'. Pashtuns did not live in northern Afghanistan or Bactria, and only recently, in the last 200 years, did they reach northern Afghanistan. In addition, MANY ethnicities in Afghanistan have Greek descent, not just Pashtuns.
Therefore, please research and read the required works regarding historical evidence and archeology (which I have done a lot), and understand that you don't own this article. It is a communal and collaborative work. Don't disrupt the improvement of the article, and take out good information that is usually included in other important Wikipedia articles. Leopardus62 (talk) 04:41, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article incorrectly claims that Tajiks are "Eastern Iranian." This is factually inaccurate, as "Eastern Iranian" is a linguistic classification and cannot be applied to Tajiks, who are native speakers of Persian—a Western Iranian language. Ancestry (or presumed ancestry) is irrelevant when using precise linguistic terminology. Both Hazaras and Tajiks are, by definition, "Western Iranian peoples" and belong to the broader Persian linguistic and cultural group. All Persian dialects, including Hazaragi and the Tajik dialects of Tajikistan, are more closely related to Kurdish and Tati than to Pashto or Ossetian. Notably, Ossetian is spoken in the outer northwest of the Iranian linguistic world but is still classified as "Eastern Iranian." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:71A0:8419:9800:5586:B6A9:8160:E0EF (talk) 01:14, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 17:27, 27 November 2024 (UTC)